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Old 05-28-2007, 09:36 AM    (permalink
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wow Panthers @ 12! behind Vikings..Rams..Saints?

i would take a healthy Morgan-Beason-Thomas anyday of the weak over any other LB group
sure, when their heatlhy but morgan is never healthy
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6 for the Packer's seems about right.
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BlindSite you are being a ridiculous homer about this man, it's almost to the point where it's frustrating to see. Thomas Davis is not a better LB than AJ Hawk, period. Barnett is much more consistent than Morgan and can actually stay on the field for an entire season, in fact Nick is one of the more underrated players in the NFC on the defensive side of the ball. And Poppinga right now is better than Beason, because Jon hasn't proven anything on the field.
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wow have u seen the afc rankings

the steelers 11th

behind the texans and the raiders and the titans
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Where is Nick Barnett? He's a stud LB.

I'd say Lofa is good, but not better than Barnett.
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OLB, Scott Shanle - Tackles, 73, Assists, 24, Sacks, 4, Forced Fumbles, 1

SLB, Scott Fujita - Tackles, 64, Assists, 32, Sacks, 3.5, Interceptions, 2, Forced Fumbles, 1

I'm not saying the Saints Linebackers are anything close to great, but they must be doing something right and are underrated as many still say they are horrible at best. Also, Brian Simmons will start over Mark Simoneau at Middle Linebacker. Stopping the run is Simoneau's biggest weakness, and is a strength for Simmons.
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I'm not saying the Saints Linebackers are anything close to great, but they must be doing something right and are underrated as many still say they are horrible at best. Also, Brian Simmons will start over Mark Simoneau at Middle Linebacker. Stopping the run is Simoneau's biggest weakness, and is a strength for Simmons.
The Saints LB's are anything but underrated. They just aren't good.
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lol somenes gotta get the stats..besides the front 4 of the saints..no1 impressed me.
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BlindSite you are being a ridiculous homer about this man, it's almost to the point where it's frustrating to see. Thomas Davis is not a better LB than AJ Hawk, period. Barnett is much more consistent than Morgan and can actually stay on the field for an entire season, in fact Nick is one of the more underrated players in the NFC on the defensive side of the ball. And Poppinga right now is better than Beason, because Jon hasn't proven anything on the field.

My opinion has been agreed with by a guy who's not a Panthers fan, therefore you can't really call me a homer because its not just one lone panthers fan with this opinion...

Greenbay's defense while decent, as a whole is overrated imo.
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okay so why are Vikings so high? They add in Greenway..unproven. Leber is not very good..Henderson is good though.

Willis is unproven so why are 49ers so high?

Derek Smith blows..i've seen him a few times and the 49er fans have bashed him. Moore i dont know much about..Lawson will be a good player but how much has he proven?

thats why i brought Beason up..the site put in Willis and Greenway .
Leber actually performed very well last season and was extremely consistent.
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My opinion has been agreed with by a guy who's not a Panthers fan, therefore you can't really call me a homer because its not just one lone panthers fan with this opinion...

Greenbay's defense while decent, as a whole is overrated imo.
Your opinion was agreed with by a guy who thinks the Panthers have the best LB core in the NFC.

Green Bay's defense is extremely solid apart from some secondary questions. And they have a better LB core than Carolina. A rookie, an injury prone player, and another a talented but young LB does not equate to beating extremely consistent players in Poppinga and Barnett to go along with one of the best young defensive players in the game right now.
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Can somebody post the AFC rankings.
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yes sirr

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=212433

1. Ravens
2. Chargers
3. Dolphins
4. Patriots
5. Chiefs
6. Broncos
7. Jaguars
8. Titans
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10. Raiders
11. Steelers
12. Jets
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1. Merriman
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http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=212433

1. Ravens
2. Chargers
3. Dolphins
4. Patriots
5. Chiefs
6. Broncos
7. Jaguars
8. Titans
9. Texans
10. Raiders
11. Steelers
12. Jets
13. Browns
14. Bengals
15. Colts
16. Bills

1. Merriman
2. Adalius Thomas
3. Zach Thomas
4. Lewis
5. Bulluck
Merriman is not the best LB in the AFC. He's still to one dimensional for my liking as an LB ranked that high.
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agreed.

no way should Patriots be behind Chargers in overall LBs..Chargers have: Merriman, Phillips, lost Edwards..who else?

Patriots have Thomas, Colvin, Vrabel and our weak link is Bruschi.
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I think Adalius is better then Merriman, he can cover stuff the run well, he can still get 10+ sacks and he isnt let loose a vast majority of the time like Merriman
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Green Bay at #6 sounds right

Not sure where someone would get the idea Green Bay's defense is overrated, Not saying they are great by any means but they are most certainlynot over rated. Hawk and barnett are better then thomas and morgan.
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The Bills at 16 is nonsense, the Browns that low is pretty bad too. Davis is a great MLB, Wimbley had a great rookie year and is only gonna get better. Jackson and Williams inside rotating, McGinest and Peek rotating, that is a very good group. I think both those groups should be top 10. I really like Buffalo's group, Ellison and Crowell both did very well last year, add Poz to that group, very good group.

Jason Taylor is a LB too, Miami should be #1. :p
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LMAO at the Texans being in front of the Steelers. I guess Demeco's awesomeness makes up for the fact that we are going to be very weak at SLB this year. Morlon Greenwood is a solid player, but the Steelers are definitely superior to us.

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Not sure where someone would get the idea Green Bay's defense is overrated, Not saying they are great by any means but they are most certainlynot over rated. Hawk and barnett are better then thomas and morgan.
I would agree with this. Their secondary is definately overrated, but their front seven is very good.
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I would agree with this. Their secondary is definately overrated, but their front seven is very good.
Charles Woodson's overall awesomeness should cover up any mistakes they have in their secondary. Oh wait, he's not at Michigan anymore:(
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The Saints LB's are anything but underrated. They just aren't good.
How are they not decent? Also, I said they are underrated in the fact that most say they are horrible at best.

Fujita and Shanle played very well as first year Saints, I don't see how they aren't good players.

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How are they not decent? Also, I said they are underrated in the fact that most say they are horrible at best.
Simoneau is roster fodder, Fujita is a journeyman. This season your LB's look solid though. Brian Simmons is much better than Simoneau. Shanle is ok.
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