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Old 05-29-2007, 05:24 PM    (permalink
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i think jackson gonna lead the league with rushing yards and possibly win the mvp
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i think jackson gonna lead the league with rushing yards and possibly win the mvp
I dont. He has great versitality and is an absolute tank, but I dont think he will lead the league in rushing. Maybe total yards from scrimmage, but I dont think he is up there in running abilities as LT, LJ, Frank Gore, or Jerious Norwood.
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Passing
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Jon Kitna

Rushing
1. Steven Jackson
2. Larry Johnson
3. Frank Gore
4. Ladanian Tomlinson
5. Willie Parker

Receiving
1. Steve Smith
2. Roy Williams
3. Chad Johnson
4. Marvin Harrison
5. Anquan Boldin

Sacks
1. Adalius Thomas
2. Derrick Burgess
3. Julius Peppers - he's never going to be sack leader but he'll still be the best at his position
4. Aaron Kampman
5. Javon Kearse
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Losman doesnt look doubtful, with the more 3 and 4 wr sets were gonna use, the means more passing the ball, and now we have a HB who can actually catch
yeah thats gonna help him alot, but are the other WR's even good enough?
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I'm assuming this is for yards, not TD's, QB rating, YPC, catches, etc.

Passing
1. Carson Palmer
2. Jon Kitna
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger

Rushing
1. LaDanian Tomlinson
2. Steven Jackson
3. Frank Gore
4. Willie Parker
5. Travis Henry

Recieving
1. Donald Driver
2. Roy Williams
3. Chad Johnson
4. Lee Evans
5. Torry Holt

Sacks
1. Kamerion Wimbley
2. DeMarcus Ware
3. Derrick Burgess
4. Shawne Merriman
5. Osi Umenyiora

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1. Mat McBriar
2. Scott Player
3. Shane Lechler
4. Jason Baker
5. Dustin Colquitt
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The only way Larry Johnson is not top 5 in rushing is if he gets injured. He has pretty much never been injured through his time in college and the NFL and he has very little wear and tear despite all of the carries last year. LJ is going to get his 1,500+ yards.
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Passing:
1. Carson Palmer
2. Peyton Manning
3. Marc Bulger
4. Tom Brady
5. Drew Brees

Rushing:
1. Steven Jackson
2. LaDainian Tomlinson
3. Frank Gore
4. Willie Parker
5. Larry Johnson

Recieving:
1. Torry Holt
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Larry Fitzgerald
4. Steve Smith
5. Lee Evans

Sacks:
1. Julius Peppers
2. Shawne Merriman
3. DeMarcus Ware
4. Derrick Burgess
5. Dwight Freeney
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1. Drew Brees
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Tom Brady
5. Jon Kitna

Rushing
1. Ladanian Tomlinson
2. Larry Johnson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Willie Parker
5. Travis Henry

Receiving
1. Chad Johnson
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Roy Williams
4. Braylon Edwards
5. Larry Fitzgerald

Sacks
1. Terrell Suggs
2. Shawne Merriman
3. Aaron Kampman
4. Julius Peppers
5. Jason Taylor
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I dont. He has great versitality and is an absolute tank, but I dont think he will lead the league in rushing. Maybe total yards from scrimmage, but I dont think he is up there in running abilities as LT, LJ, Frank Gore, or Jerious Norwood.
You don't think Steven Jackson has the same running abilities as Jerious Norwood?....

I doubt he'll lead the leauge in rushing yards either, but I think its safe to say he's better then Jerious Norwood.

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The only way Larry Johnson is not top 5 in rushing is if he gets injured. He has pretty much never been injured through his time in college and the NFL and he has very little wear and tear despite all of the carries last year. LJ is going to get his 1,500+ yards.
I think he'll get over 1500 yards by default through all his carries, but how do you figure he very little wear and tear, when we can't possibly even know that until the season starts? That's somethig we'll see in the games, not in interviews, or Training camp.
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cuz he was such a yard machine in the superbowl
Yeah..basing an argument off of one game that he got hurt in is a real good idea.

Where do some of you morons come from?
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Passing
1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Matt ''Lionhart'' Leinart

Rushing
1. Steven Jackson
2. Frank Gore
3. Ladainian Tomlinson
4. Joseph Addai
5. Cedric Benson (bold)

Receiving
1. Steve Smith
2. Chad Johnson
3. Marvin Harrison
4. Torry Holt
5. Anquan Boldin

Sacks
1. Julius Peppers
2. Aaron Kampman
3. Shawne Merrimam
4. Derrick Burgess
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You don't think Steven Jackson has the same running abilities as Jerious Norwood?....

I doubt he'll lead the leauge in rushing yards either, but I think its safe to say he's better then Jerious Norwood.
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I think he'll get over 1500 yards by default through all his carries, but how do you figure he very little wear and tear, when we can't possibly even know that until the season starts? That's somethig we'll see in the games, not in interviews, or Training camp.
Because Larry Johnson has only started 2 full seasons in both college and the NFL. He started his senior year at Penn State and this past season in KC. That's it.

Ladainian Tomlinson on the other hand had over 5,200 yards in college. Counting rushes and receptions Ladainian Tomlinson has had close to 400 touches a year for 6 years in the NFL. Ladainian Tomlinson has had nagging injuries for several years during his tenure in the NFL. Larry Johnson has not really had any injuries in the NFL.

I am of the opinion that Ladainian Tomlinson will run out of gas before LJ does. Tomlinson has more yardage on him, is a little bit older, and is not near as strong as LJ is. Also, Tomlinson is the one that is going to have the bullseye on his back this year.

Larry Johnson is working with the same trainer that Tiki Barber worked with while he was in the NFL. Larry has added more strength yet he looks more lean as well. In recent pictures taken last week LJ looks ripped. I expect him to be even stronger and faster this year.

So to answer your question, I think that in all likelihood LJ does not have alot of wear and tear on him.
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Rushing:
1. Steven Jackson
2. Larry Johnson
3. LDT
4. Frank Gore
5. Travis Henry

Receiving:
1. Steve Smith
2. Reggie Wayne
3. Chad Johnson
4. Andre Johnson
5. Torry Holt

Passing:
1. Carson Palmer
2. Peyton Manning
3. Marc Bulger
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Drew Brees

Sacks:
1. Shawne Merriman
2. Julius Peppers
3. DeMarcus Ware
4. Osi Umenyiora
5. Adalius Thomas

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Because Larry Johnson has only started 2 full seasons in both college and the NFL. He started his senior year at Penn State and this past season in KC. That's it.

Ladainian Tomlinson on the other hand had over 5,200 yards in college. Counting rushes and receptions Ladainian Tomlinson has had close to 400 touches a year for 6 years in the NFL. Ladainian Tomlinson has had nagging injuries for several years during his tenure in the NFL. Larry Johnson has not really had any injuries in the NFL.

I am of the opinion that Ladainian Tomlinson will run out of gas before LJ does. Tomlinson has more yardage on him, is a little bit older, and is not near as strong as LJ is. Also, Tomlinson is the one that is going to have the bullseye on his back this year.

Larry Johnson is working with the same trainer that Tiki Barber worked with while he was in the NFL. Larry has added more strength yet he looks more lean as well. In recent pictures taken last week LJ looks ripped. I expect him to be even stronger and faster this year.

So to answer your question, I think that in all likelihood LJ does not have alot of wear and tear on him.
I didn't ask if LT had more wear and tear on him then LJ, so all that you typed in your first three paragraphs is kinda pointless....

But, Larry Johnson may not have started two years ago, he still had 336 carries, so that's no different then starting. Tomlinson has not had nagging injuries his whole career, the only place I can guess you got that from is his ribs injury in '05? And pictures of him looking ripped, or lean, are no indication that he won't have any burn on his tires...His running style also makes him a lot more susceptible to damage then LT who is much more elusive and avoids many more "big hits".

But you adjusted it to say in all likelihood, which is fair, I just disagree with it. He may not feel the effects this year, but in two years, especailly if he has another heavy carries season, he will.
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Could be. If he gets considerable playing time I think he'll be a beast in our defense.
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Yeah right top 5 in sacks though. Merriman wasnt top 5 his rookie season neither was Ware and they have so much more talent then Woodley. Your being a huge homer here, there are so many better passrushers.
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